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FFS even CnC renegade is better than this version of battlefield...

I really did get a kick out of this rant. That doesn't stop people for ranting on you even though you did qualify your rant in advance that you had only played the demo. Don't get me wrong I don't really agree with a lot of it because I find that the game is pretty damn fun.
That said... I'm sure weapon advancement would be far ahead of what this game would have us believe 130+ years in the future. 2042? Yeah, maybe. 2142 probably just sounded like it had a better ring to it from someone in marketing. Think about the advances from WWI to WWII, and that was a few decades. Put the Revolutionary War's muskets, rifles, and cannons in the equation and see the advances made between then and WWI. WWII to now? Tech for weapons is getting nuts. I haven't seen anything in this game that couldn't conceivably be done within a few years, minus the mag-lev tanks maybe, but who knows.
Anyway, with the way things are going it will probably look more like the game Fallout in 2142 than BF 2142, and we will all be dead anyway so we won't know.

Dudes its a game if u dont like it play something else..... tho i did find ur rant funny..... word of advise try war rock (thats a hott game) the thing about bf2142 is in my opinion its way too slow all of it the sprinting is too short.... i agree.... turrets dont offer much protection... fact.... game generally sucks ill take warrock over it anyday..... i prefer racing and i just want to mention that i was dissapointed with nfs carbon by ea after most wanted i expected something really good bought the game and it sucked...... ea doosh bags.... but i do like c&c3 its rather good but its too similar to warcraft star craft etc etc come on dudes fucking think of a way to make the games better than the rest (like the new race 2 scrin) but ea fucked up the balancing on the races typical all in all ea sucks programmers are doosh bags need to get some fresh blood in there and some new ideasor just any idea would be great neways im out later dudes

I literally laughed my way through this whole thing. A couple of things really struck me though:

"Where are my plasma weapons, phasers, lasers, and energy guns?" - You want your guns to go 'peeooo-peeeo?'

"How come infantry can kill me quicker in the stationary defenses than any of the vehicles?" - Probably because there are HUGE holes in the side of the stationary guns? And I assure you, one shot from a tank will most certainly kill you. Maybe not the turret, but definitely you.

Friendly fire. Funniest one here. Are you serious? You want the game to prevent you from shooting your teammates? Don't even tell me that you can't tell the difference. Your allies all have blue names above their heads. Also, have you noticed that the EU team wears orange and gray while the PAC wears black? Not even a colorblind person will mistake orange/gray for black or vice versa. Learn to pay more attention and maybe you'll be able to hit the enemy and not your teammates.

That aside, I do agree with point #8. If there's one thing I hate about the BF series it's that FUCKING menu that has to load. You're playing the game, the spawn menu comes up but you're fine with all the options so you hit escape. SHIT! The menu is now loading and pressing escape several times is only going to make the menu pop up and go away over and over. Brilliant DICE. Just brilliant.

Well... first of all, the reason why the makers of 2142 made it still have bullets is because .. having "lazers" wont get you to have the feel of the fire power.. do you seriously want lazers that goes.. "pew.. pew pew..." oviously not..
Also.. yeah.. okay.. the core of the titan is very vulnerable but.. its just the whole part of the gameplay? if you just keep the core at maximum security somewhere.. oh hell how are we going to kill the titan now?
Not everything is about realism.. its about the game experience and gameplay.
Also.. on your 6th point.. Mechs are heavy and all that are heavy.. tanks are heavy? everything is heavy.
And friendly fire is not even a point =\

I agree. 100%. EA/Dice can suck my nuts.. I am NEVER wasting another cent on anything brought out by these dorks again.

I wish I could get my (wasted) money back for these stupid coasters.

Yeah, you're review sounds like you barely scratched the surface of the game. As you play online, you get upgrades to your speed, and other things. The whole thing about the titans shields forcefields in the interior being in random places isn't true. They're their to prevent spawn-killing on the titan, becuase that's where that teams spawn point is. You're review does have some good points, but is basically poor because of the lack of time you took to evaluate this game.

weak sprint is still better than no sprint

1) Dont expect the soldiers to all be Captain America. Does that armor that the soldiers wear look like spandex and feathers? Or does it look like heavy coating (The ice age is coming, don't expect it to be all nice and warm), metel, heavy weaponry, and loads of technology? Does that look light to you? Plus, as mentioned before, there are unlocks that are easy to get that increase stamina recovery and duration.

2) If you want better weapons and such, why not just make a game where all it is, is a button that says "Nuke Egypt"? Imagine how fun that could be.

3) Do you expect every single futureistic game to be so far advanced? There are still very strong chances that even in two hundred years we will rely on simliar technology. If you want power and superb effectiveness, why not just refer to number two? Then you could get the same thing done in less time, and requires no thinking at all!

4) This is a game, not real life. It has to be POSSIBLE. EA could have made it so it would be impossible to access the core from the outside, but how fun would that be? Then why have Titan modes in the first place? All it would be then is a invincible giant ship shooting the ground below it.

5) You must not have played very long at all. Vehicles and infanty kill more people than stationary defenses. At least, thats true in the FULL GAME. Oh, and there are anti-air weapons in the FULl GAME.

6) As said before, with the weapons and ammunition and pods, and considering their size, be glad they move at all. The vehicles in the game can traverse ground quickly and efficiantly if you have just a little bit of skill. Judging by what you have said, skill is a new word.

7) The server browser is fine as it is. You can easily order the servers as you would want, and you can find a server with low lag and a perfect number of players on the perfect map if you try more than five seconds. Oh, and I can play on 200 ping servers with NO LAG AT ALL. 300 I get lag, and thats the PB kick point. All you have to do is not max out the detail and mesh settings. The difference from High detail and Low detail is near unnoticable.

8) The menu loads quickly, and works fine. I see no problems with it. My answer: suck it. And your own game probably doesn't compare to BF2142, unless you coded Quake, Halo, UT, or BF2.

9) (Incase you're stupid, this is sarcasm) Oh! I get it! Lets have the computer do everything for us! Then we don't have to work at all! Fun is bad! Trying to do something is bad! Let computers have fun for us! Yeah! Infact, this brings me to you're next point.

10) Again, are we going to have the computer do everything for us? Seriously, a bullet is going to fly until something stops it.

Does improvement mean having something else do your work for you? Is a boring game where you don't have to do anything considered to be a good game? I, too, am glad you aren't buying the full game. I don't want to hear such a sissy complainer on the no-lag servers I play on.

Well i started to play BF 2142 some days ago.... Man that game is so fu... stupid. Look at the year come on... New weapons would be more powerful and more destructive then ever .... what about those choopers... if you ask me i would put a lot more stuff to drive and to fly ... thats why Half Life Rules ..... no vch.. no complaints... and btw this game is too much comercial. leave the Sierra to make new BF and dice step away (EA)

1.You expect people to run forever and faster than a jeep? This is a fps,not a future simulator.
2.It's a fps of course it has the same kind of feel.
3.This one I agree a bit.
4.Interior should be changed too.The shields that lead to the spawn point is to prevent spawn camping.
5.Instead of hopping into a anti-infantry,just fire at him.
6.Vehicles should be able to climb a bit steeper.
7.Click advanced.
8.For looks
9.You expect to see the enemy in the hud through the wall? There's no purpose of ambush anymore.
10.So an ally charges towards you with a knife to spawn camp you for fun and you have to double click to shoot him.

Played the demo once.
As far as I could see the game has potential although hard to measure without spending more time playing it. However, that isn't possible.
The demo fucked up my PC and now cannot go online with other games (COD for example). Red Orchestra still works which shows how good code should be written...
I tried to access the demo again but it crashed my PC - that is a first since I installed XP on it over a year ago. I managed to sort out the mess this demo created, ... removed the demo, cleaned up my HD and removed the installation file.
What was I thinking? Trying a game from EA. And I promised myself not to buy one from them. Ever. I WILL keep that promise!
Thank you

After reading all these hater comments I realize that most of you have only played the demo. Yes i had the demo and I wasnt too pleased. Then i bought the game cuz it was on sale. It is 10x better then the demo. Its alot more fun once you get a higher rank and start unlocking some of the kits. About the sprinting... you unlock it so you can sprint farther. And the stupid future ranting.. first off its not that far into the future and plus it would make the game boring after a while. You need a challenge in the game. My only downfall with BF2142 is that there are still alot of bugs, but thats what patches are for.

I could not agree more, nor laugh heartier, with this review. Right on!

Battlefield 1942 was a great game and I still play it to this day. I have purchased RTR, Vietnam, 2, 2Euroforce, 2Special Forces and 2Armored Fury. I will go no further since playing the 2142 trial. 2142 is simply lame. It is on sale tomorrow at Best Buy for $25 and I won't even bother.

Dice and EA games have gotten progressively lazy with every new release since 1942. I believe it is due to some kind of stifling corporate environment, or something else. I don't know what their problem is.

It seems that all of the talent is out there creating great mods without the uselessness of over-managing corporate stupidity. I was in a clan, the Warped Gunmen, that sported a member named Rad who became a prominent skinner and map maker for FH, the Alaskan maps. Talented and not employed by Dice. I remember playing a great mod called Eve of Destruction, with a great map called Bad Moon Rising. That lead me to buy EA's BF Vietnam, just as Desert Combat led me to BF2, and both EA versions suffered from a seeming desperate attempt to out-do modders. Hell, I even played the BF Pirates mod just the other day. It was a lot more fun than 2142.

My point is that Dice and EA seem jealous of the free tradesmen who one up them at every turn. I figure 2142 is their attempt to leap ahead and, of course, they fell slap on their face. In fact, I think the BF Star Wars mod has it beat.

With special regards to your criticisms of their inexcusably incompetent server menu, progressively worse than 1942, thanks for the honest and funny review.

Looks like you have a beef more with the battlefield series itself just for the sake of having a beef. First of all...I know you're probably some geek who thinks Humans turn into supermen 140 years into the future...but we really didnt advance too much since the days of christ. So how is technology suppose to stop friendly fire?...1000 years ago there was friendly fire in the form of the Crossbow or longbow...there is friendly fire in the fire of bullets. I assume you traveled into the future, judging by your posts...you must be in some Military unit in the year 2150. You seem to know ALOT about futuristic techonolgy...tell me how far do you REALLY believe technology will improve. back in the 1950's apparently they believed we would be living in Mars by now. We are not. We are still farming the Baltic coasts just like 2000 years ago....some people in different areas of the world still live nomadic as their ancestors did. So i suggest you stop reading your comic books and get a life. you talk about Small-arms weapons as if you really are a soldier. your just a fucking wannabe soldier geek pussy ass college boy. by the way ...wouldnt energy weapons give off MORE of an overheat then say bullets?.....dumbf*ck

theres more comments ---> http://www.k-rad.hk/?p=138 <--- they all hate it, pathetic game.

You have alot of good points. I noticed you didn't mention the shit resolution nor the lack of flying vehicles. The map sizes are ridiculous as well. I fly straight off the fucking screen after five seconds of flight. I want to have a game that lets me fly longer. We're in the future, I'm sure during a god damn battle, there would be more than 1 UAV, 1 Gunship, and 1 Cargo aircraft. This is just shit. The game was obviously rushed, and patches must be in development. I'm just pissed overall with the lack of detail. Yes, and the vehicles having about as much muscle as Paris Hilton is absolutely fucking nonsense. dannyecrane@gmail.com

IT'S A GODDAMN GAME FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

Well good for you that you know 2 many people...
I see where you're going, but in my opinion you're just payin' to much attention to details...
I have fun playing the game, same as i did/still do playin' battlefield 2 ...
They are both great games, if they weren't they wouldn't sell. (ok ok majority ain't nerdy enough to see details, but at least they have fun!)
About clans and patches, euhhmmm so what? I just have fun, never joined a clan and never will, don't see the point!? Patches sometimes do cause problems, most of the time fix alot of them, but who's perfect anyway... I'd like to see you try... I mean come on?
And i know you're not alone this, euhmm D'UH, nobody is alone in the're opinion...
Some people hate mc donalds for killing animals, you hate EA for making games YOU and your minority group don't like... See my point... you can try all you want but nobody will ever care about a minority, it's a shame i know! But also a FACT...

Reaction to Peon: 2142 only lags if you have a slow computer/connection OR you play on low ping servers... I never have lag! EVER!

Well i asure you, im not lonly haha. I'm into my music (Electro/Breakbeat/Techno) and go clubbing and travel the country for this purpose. I know too many people if anything haha.

Yes, i dont like EA, but thats not the reason i slate this game, i'm just warning you about EA's code of practice andf how they treat there comsumer/Developers/Products. Poorly to say the least!!!

The game is bad, its that simple, Yes its my opinion, but i ashure you, Im not the only one that thinks this!!! Far from haha. Project Reality/FH2 and POE are all better MODS than BF2142 is!!! Ok it isnt a MOD in the sense that the engine as been EDITED!!! Its not NEW!!! And the edits are very few (As it was made in 6 months!!!) and what is new causes problems!!! Poor coding all the way through the game!!! Im not slating people that enjoy playing this game, Because i know fun is there to be had, But after the initial month you all will see the game for what it is!!! And those that do go on to get there ubber points and unlocks just for the sake of it (as i did in BF2 - 800 Hours (http://www.bf2s.com/player/48551158/)) will eventually notice what a poor game it is. Soon as the maps get boring and repetitive, The patches make the game WORSE as every patch did for BF2. ANd dont go sayiong BF2142 wont be the same, ITS EA WERE TALKING ABOUT!!! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EA#Criticism)

You Fanboys of BF series and people just defending EA for the sake of it cause your having fun at the moment are obviously going come back at me, But im not alone on this. All the top clans left after 1.3 patch in BF2 so the best players arnt even affiliated with BF series anymore. Say what you like but i backup my claims and have evidence to boot. So what makes you EA are going give 2 fucks about 2142??? Dream on people!!! Sorry but its true and dont lie to yourself.

O yes, watch out for BF2142 - Alien's Attack, it'll be out in 6 months with somemore bugs and problems!!!

this game, with all the fucked up fucked upNess would still be AWSOME, if there wasnt so DAMN much LAGGGGG, i mean OMGGGGG, ea....STOP BEING LAZYY!!!

I would also like to add about the 'review' here... dont forget that the whole setting of this game is based around an ice age... which means, technology could in essence go backwards due to lack of economy/populace/consumer industry. Do you really think that during an ice age things would progress so much further than they are now?

I for one enjoy the game and all of the different aspects of it.

Yes it has some bugs, but what game doesnt?

I think i do see your point ...
First of all i really couldn't care less about how much money EA makes, getting frustrated over something like that is really pointless! But hey... go ahead!
Second the game is of good quality and can be qualified as a completely new game!
There are soooo many games that use the same engine of previous games and yes it's very simular, but still... so many changes have been made that almost every gamemagazine/site/reviewer...or whatever recognizes it as a new game AND with and average of 81% who are YOU to say it's bad quality? It's just your opinion!

As I read you're comments I see only one thing: an extremely frustrated and probably lonely person, GET A GRIP MAN! There are worse problems in life then some company with games YOU don't like! Think about that...

Farlopa001 - You missed the point of what im making, Every game from BF1924 upto BF2142, as got worse and worse, with the exception of BF:V

Why?

Because of EA. EA have destroyed Companies/Franchises for there persuit of $$$$. BF2142 if you want a quick fast pased (most of the time if you have a vehicle!!!) action its OK!!! OK!!! thats it!!! As a game, its poor quality that people dont like about it. THe fact that its not even a new game but a MOD for BF2 is an insult to everyone, and when you get people who do POE and FH who do a million times better job than EA/DICE (EA Brought DICE) on there MODS its a damn right piss take!!!

And dont expect ANY! support for BF2142, there already working on the next piece of crap that will bolt onto 2142, It will be out in 6 months and cost you another 20GBP($35 or whatever you currency is)!!!

I've vowed never to purchase another EA product since 1.3 Patch on BF2, There a JOKE!!! But as long as there people out there willing to buy shoddy, rushed, buggy 'safe' games, EA sitting there ready to take your money!!!

This must be the funniest review i ever read!
So sad... I mean you sound like a b****
Don't like it? Don't play and stop cryin' about it...
Get al life, some friends, stuff that makes you happy not frustrated :p

Ow and BF 2142 rocks! who cares about the stupid details...It's a great game, some of your remarks just prove that you have little experience playing the game or you really suck at it.

Thanks man it's always fun to know how sad some people are, makes ME feel so much better!

Grtz
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[EDIT BY EVIL: "Ow and BF 2142 rocks! who cares about the stupid details...I" LOLROFLZWAFL!!!!!! ur a noooooooobz0r farlopa001]

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On with the flame!

More than half your beefs are invalid with the release of the full version. The complaint on running? Theres an unlock in the form of a "hypospray" injection (yessir, those neato injection guns they use in all the new fangled sci-fi shows) that almost doubles your sprint distance, and another that doubles your Stamina recharge.

2 and 3 are the same beef. You want UT2XXX or Quake for phaser guns and particale cannons and Hypermegaphadronubahdeathrayzzomgwtfbbq. Modern military concede that we've gone as far as we can with most of our military technology, and we'll be using projectile weapons well into the future because of economics and portability. You might as well say "Where are the goddam rocket pants!?" They're about as feasible. That whole point sounded to me like "I can't kill d00ds with teh gunz in bf2142, they shud have liek bilt in aimbot". (K, that's probably a little overdramatic, but the game would be boring as crap if you could kill anything with 1 shot while full sprinting at 80km/h across the entire map). And what's more futuristci than a big walking death machine of death?! (even if it's not fitted with hyperphasic blazrgunz0rz)

Titans, my biggest bone of contention, although I LOVE Titan matches. I partially agree with you on this point. The titans are pretty much something you have to suspend belief to get your head around. Possibly the worst design flaw in the game. But for balance and playabilty issues, some things just can't work. They also need to fix the physical interaction of soldiers/sentry guns/grenades/etc. with moving titans DESPERATELY!

Base defences. It's not terribly unbelievable that both factions happen to use the same base defences. I mean, 130 years into the future, there might only be ONE company that designs and constructs lightweight, easily deployable base defences, and to assume they'd only cater to one faction is less believable. TODAY'S weapons manufacturers sell to both sides. And the limit of ammunition in the AA gun (2 rockets) again would be an issue of size, as would be the guidance package (they are guided rockets and continue to track anything the turret has currently "locked".) Also, vehicles have no trouble dispatching infantry sitting in turrets, unless the turret is facing the vehicle, the same as happens if the turret is facing infantry.
And FYI, 1 of the engineer unlocks is a shoulder mounted anti-air weapon (Mitchel SAAW 86).

Vehicles.....ok, you probably need to learn a little about power to weight ratio. Even though I've had no such trouble with the Tiger(EU Tank with tracks), the only time I have problems going uphill is in the Nekomata (PAC "hover" tank). But hey, I'd only expect that from a vehicle that has ZERO traction, the hover tank also rivals the jeeps for speed on downward slopes.

The retails game's server browser is NOTHING like the demo version. All the stuff you complained about is included in the retail server browser, totally invalid complaint.

The menu, I agree, it IS retarded. But I fail to see how this affects gameplay unless you're stupid enough to hit escape during a match. In which case you probably just suck at the game and are prone to panic and mash the keyboard when people shoot at you. But yes. this is another area that DICE could improve upon. As it doesn't in any way affect gameplay....it's quite possibly very low on their list of priorities. So I'd suggest, if you can't spare the 10 seconds the menu takes to load from inside a match, you give up gaming altogether, because your jetsetting, fast lane lifestyle really doesn't afford you the time to play games at all.

The HUD is actually extremely informative, it does point out who and where your friendly units arewith big blue circles, as does it point out enemy units with big red circles, when in your field of view, and if you shoot your team mates so often that you need some sort of built in system to stop you doing it, don't play on FF servers, or learn2aim.

As to the guy that complained about the air compliment in the game. The Gunships are devastating in the hands of a smart pilot with a half decent nose gunner, as are the air transports. Competent pilot + competent gunner/s = useful tool of warfare.

Basically, that was a rational list of complaints based on, what I'm guessing was, your fairly limited experience of the demo of the game.

Probably best leave the reviewing and complaining until after you've actually experienced the retail version, or change the title to "Top 10 Worst Things About Battlefield 2142: A Demo"

Edit: I had to edit once because it's frikken freezing here where I live, and poor widdle fingers don't work proper in the cold. I almost broke my backspace key on this long winded, possible never-to-be read post.

2142 kinda suxx, i only bought it for some nice mods that are gonne be released. and not that im gonne play some stupid sirius mods, only funmods for me :3.

Yeah, this game (or at least the demo) is shit.

You can't even run all the way across your own fucking base, and the map is GIGANTIC. You might as well just camp by your own vehicles, because you aren't getting anywhere on foot. Even on the fastest ground vehicle it still takes a significant amount of time to cross the map.

The performance of land vehicles on inclines is just shameful. For fuck's sake, an 80-yeard old guy in a wheelchair can make it up some of these slopes. Add to that the fact that a motorized wheelchair can get around the map faster than you. Yeah, they should just replace all the land vehicles with motorized wheel chairs; faster than running and can go up inclines.

As for the air vehicles...yikes. The chopper thing looks badass and is relatively fast; that's the only good thing I can say about it. Though I did manage to perform a loop. The air assult vehicle is a brick. In fact, I would take my chances in a brick over the air assult vehicle. I have to agree with you; a Sopwith Camel would be vastly superior to either of these. I don't know whether that's funny or sad. While we're at it, I think I would prefer a Honda Civic with a mounted pellet gun over any of the ground vehicles.

I didn't notice it at first, but now that you mention it shooting conventional bullets does seem a little odd. It is kind of retarded how weapons can overheat, but at least they are being consistent with using WWI-era weapons. The fact that they included a melee weapon is laughable. Assuming your opponent has ANY projectile weapon at all, you will never live long enough to catch up to him. Your only hope is sneaking up from behind, and with the enormous open spaces providing absolutely no cover at all I fail to see that happening. Also, the guy employs the "Richard Simmons" style of knife fighting. Not that there's anything wrong with that. The stationary defensive weapons are pretty shitty, as well.

And then there is strafing; it is basically non-existant in this game. Given the type of game this is I can almost understand why they might de-emphasize strafing, but grandma Ethel on crutches can outstrafe this guy. She can probably outrun him, too.

And the menu loading thing is just embarassing.

The only good thing I can say about the game as a whole is that both teams have the same disadvantages, so at least it should be fair.

The only thing I disagree with is the Titans having the same layout; if they didn't, teams would bitch about it.

THe game stinks!!!!! Its that simple. THe engine is the same as BF2 and cant handle the titan, It's buggy and kits dont even fall on the floor of the titan. It's a bolt on to make the game seem like its got more to offer. And the engine cant handle the walkers either. How manmy times have you been there where it seems like someones shaking you vilantly, Or just glide along as if on a magic carpet haha.

As for the storey, if you look at the powerstation level they quote 2143, Wait one second, isnt it 2142??? Thats 1 year later??? Thats how bothered they are, One day people will relise that EA are all about money and working there programmers to ridiculas deadlines. Take a look at there C&C projects they've been invoilved with. THey know what they want to do but release the games half finished and sell you the full game with a £15/£20 add on pack 6 months down the line. This is especially true with C&C:Generals/Zero Hour. And the addon packs for BF2 were aweful at best. Of cause jo public is going go look at this, its amazing, But people who like there gaming see the game for what it is, And BF2142 is the worst game of the Battlefield series without a doubt. Just wait for all the patches that gradually ruin it even more such as they did with BF2!!!

Please people, I cant promise but i can say 90%, ID will get it right with Enemy Territory : Quake Wars, or at least do alot better job than EA/DICE.

Well I have been modding and playing tactical shooters since Rainbow Six. BF2 and BF2142 are tactical shooters, but let's just talk about 2142..

For you guys that love Unreal and Quake, I am surprised you even play the BF series! This is not that type of game, it's not meant to be played the same way either. Stop whining about laser guns, there's planty of goodies in there. I unlocked 4 Recon items including a tight SMG/AR, a helmet mod and ACTIVE CAMO, yes it makes you about 90% transparent. Also unlocked frags, no big deal. Nothing like creeping up on somebody "cloaked", then uncloak and pull out the knife, slit! Oh yeah, each time you knife someone you collect their dogtags.. watch your six.

BF 2142 really is like a total conversion mod for BF2, it seems like the same exact engine, maybe spruced up a little. BF2142 is futuristic in the sense that it's Earth with what you'd expect to see change in 136 years. The architecture, vehicles, weaponry and skins are all "evolved", but still familiar. It's not some outer space fantasy game, and the storyline (what little of it there is) is a solid foundation for the game. Just like BF2 is based around a realistic War for oil scenario, (at least as far as who's involved and where the fighting is), BF 2142 is based around a world war for survival, during the first stages of a global ice age. If you didn't know, an Ice Age is the possible product of global warming, in this case, about 100 years of global warming. The game seems to take place over a number of years, starting about 100 years from now..

The maps vary from amazing (Fall of Berlin) to somewhat repetitive, like the map in the demo. The snow maps are a nice change, and the futuristic city warzone maps are stellar. Looking at the massive ice glacier pushed into the buildings up to the 25th story is nuts. I would like to see some stationary machineguns, like on barricades, etc. That seems to be missing. I also wouldn't mind some more ladders, you cant get onto a lot of the buildings without air transport. The effects and lighting are amazing.

Vehicles are basically balance for each side, PAC and EU both have a FAV, APC, Tank, Walker, drop ship and gunship. The APC's can launch you into the sky in a pod, to board a Titan without aircrft. Or just to get the hell out of there. That's a fun ride.
The aircraft are easier to fly than a helo in BF2 by a little, they are more stable. The weapons systems are basically the same, with 2 door gunners and several infantry in the drop ship and 2 in the gunship, pilot and gunner. The dropship guns swing aver 180 degrees and can shoot under the dropship. The gunship gunner has a minigun and TV missle, easier to fly than BF2. Pilot has rockets, same as BF2.
The tanks are tanks, but actually they lose the machinegun for the driver and instead have a more powerful turret gun for the gunner. The driver's machinegun is replaced with about a 10x zoom for the main gun. It comes in handy against....

Walkers. They kick ass and take names against infantry and vehicles, but are weak against aircraft. Each team's walker is actually armed quite differently though. The PAC's mech has 2 large cannons and EMP charges, plus the gunner's dual cannon. Crazy blue muzzle flash off all PAC weapons. The EU mech has 2 massive chainguns and rockets that tend to arc upward, plus the gunner's railgun(?) The PAC mech easily takes out EU mechs if you know how to use it. Pure havok anytime you get in one, it can stomp over most things, but stay facing up or down the uneven surfaces or you'll tip over.

Titan mode is fun, although less realistic to me, but whatever. Good supply of aircraft spawning at the Titan flight deck, and lifting off and just nosediving off the titan is too much fun. There's also six turrets you can man, and rain death on the ground below. Titans can be maneuvered by the commander over enemy points. Once you kill the enemy Titan shield, you board it and try to destroy your way to the reactor. It's not easy with a good amount of players on, and a good support guy can hold down a hallway pretty well. Frags come in handy, so does the active camo if you move slow. Teamwork is key here, loners will not have as good of a time trying to shoot their way through.

EA's had some bug issues with BF2, and had to patch 2142 before it dropped. I would've waited another month and tested it more, but it's not a big deal since you pretty much have to have the EA downloader, and the patch is always here. All games have bugs, some more than others, that's what patches are for. I've had to patch mods that were Beta tested, sh1t happens.

The look and music score are designed to give you kind of a desperate feeling. It's not techno or some rock track, it's a symphonic kind of score designed to fit the game.

If you want to change or add something to the game, learn how to make a mod. You can add anything you want almost. PPL that played Ghost Recon or the Rainbow games will find good use for their precision shooting skills, no human shoots like the bots in those games. I have a lot of fun playing this, I've definitely spent $50 on much worse games. Immersion is high and everything looks good, now I'm wondering when BF2142 : Special Forces comes out? hint hint How about a North American add-on? hint hint

Cocobolo
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everything in this is right, the game does look and sound good but theres nothing futuristic about the weapons they all have the same and in most cases worse performance the weapons from 2006, the weapon damage is something you'd expect on a cheesey arcade game (3 mags for 1 kill) i mean how hard is it to make powerfull weapons i think that its safe to assume that weapons in 100 years time will be somewhat more powerfull than todays weapons. The only thing bf2142 has got going for it is the walker, well thats is if they fixed the mini guns that overheat after you fire 6 bullets!!

but dont worry im certain EA and dice will be realesing an expansion sometime soon (just the other half of the game) and then we can get a whole 2 new items, night vision and re-skined flashbangs for £29.99 anyone??

Hi all,

Let me start by saying i only got into the BF2 series at the BF2 stage. BF2 1.0/1.01 was good, and then it went downhill from there. WHenever anyone got good at stuff, they removed the feature, and with 1.3 i think it was, the removal of squad switching killed the whole game and lost many of Top End clans due to this decision, the people that actually made BF series what it is today!!! I used to play with NUTZ in BF2 but all of us have stopped playing due to EA/DICE just messing the game and the players about.

ANyway, this is about BF2142, And i gotta say its just BF 2.5 isnt it? or like someone said, A MOD for BF2. Nothing new and i know the general public will go out and buy it and stick up for EA/DICE (same company!!!) but the people who are serious about BF series have just been shit on and shit on. I personally think it will be the last BF game, It's even got a patch out for it 2 days before its released, Which kind of fits in with how BF2 was with patches, just getting worse and worse.

People, Just hold on for Enemy Territory: Quake Wars and dont waste your money on the EA Machine, ID software who are the undisputed champions of FPS games will show you how its done. And you will never play the same level twice either, unlike with the BF series!!! You know it makes sense ;)

Don't buy, don't play and don't CRY!!!!

#1 – Your soldier looks like he's been spending time with Barry Bonds and the Balco boys, but he performs like your stoner uncle Jeff recovering from a Grateful Dead concert.

First, I would like to bring to light the similarity between BF2 and 2142 in this respect. The distance that you showed in the picture is while wearing heavy armor. This is the equivalent of sprinting in BF2 as the Anti-Tank kit. They wear heavy armor and tote around massive weapons. That's just the way it goes. Running in light armor is about the equivalent of sprinting as a Medic or Spec Ops. You can't spring for quite as long, this is true, but that is why there are unlocks that increase, not only your maximum stamina, but the rate at which it regenerates as well.

#2 – Is this battlefield 2, or battlefield 2142?

This one made me laugh, and I continued laughing as I read all of the responses stating how thoroughly badass games like Quake 1-4 were. Seriously, what's the difference between Quake 1 and 2? Slightly improved graphics, new maps, and modified weapons. Look at the difference in weapons between Quake 1 and Quake 2. They took out the axe, and added the blaster, rail gun, BFG, and Hyper-Blaster. Every other gun in the sequel is simply a reskin. Shotgun=Shotgun, Double-Barreled Shotgun=Double=Barreled Shotgun, Nail gun=Machinegun, Super-Nail gun=Chaingun, etc etc etc.

You would be hard pressed to find a sequel to a game that didn't simply reuse/reskin the old guns and models.

#3 – Those awesome high-tech weapons, or not?

This point is a bit difficult to make on your part, but to refute as well. Neither of us is able to tell where our technology is going to be in the future. What I can say, however, is that the laws of physics are a bitch. Scientists don't even know how to start going about making things like force fields and whatnot. On top of that, one could argue that in the game world, scientists were probably too busy trying to figure out ways to counteract the new ice age, or maybe make advancements in the field of agriculture so that the world's population was able to stay fed. On top of that, our rate of technological advancement has slowed down considerably within the last fifty or so years. All of the easy inventions have already been invented: toasters, rifling, and the internal combustion engine. Sure, we're making microprocessors smaller and smaller for our personal computers, but that doesn't help us magically create a ball of super=heated plasma within the restrictive confines of a pistol casing and launch it, with any amount of accuracy, at a target 30 meters away without having it dissipate in mid air, or detonate prematurely before it even leaves the gun.

There is one thing that I will agree with you on in regards to this point: over-heating guns. You're 100% right on this one. They would probably have figured something out regarding this by then. Maybe polymers that don't conduct heat as well or some sort of air-ventilated cooling system. I don't know, but you're right on that.

#4 – The Mighty Titans

This subject is all about game balance. That's just what it boils down to. If they made the interiors of the titans even just the tiniest bit difference, they would have players bitching about hallway A in Titan B gives Defenders C an unfair advantage in the form of D. That's just the way it goes.

As far as the reactor room being easily accessible, you have to remember that these titans have incredibly powerful shields surrounding them. When they built these bad boys, they didn't even consider people getting past that shield. Then some smart-ass went and put these anti-titan missile silos all over the place. Even then, it still takes like 30 missiles the size of two train engines to take those shields down. Then, the titan goes into lock down mode. The reactor is sealed off. The titan's own defenders can't get inside of that room. And if they wanted to, they would have to go and simultaneously activate 4 separate control consoles and put in their security codes and whatnot. That's not high security? When you get on a military base all they have you do is show them your ID and wave you on through.

As far as killing the people manning the consoles on the flight deck, that's again a bitch. The concept of the titans is that of an effective base that cannot be raped. If enemy players had access to the flight deck, they would just sit there and spawn camp the defending players while two engineers blew up the reactor core.

#5 – Outpost Defenses

First things first. You're a PAC squad. You just busted your humps to take over a Coalition base. They already have all of the defenses set up. Guns, sand bags, whatever. Are you going to rip them down just because they aren't the ones produced by your side's factories? I think not. What a savage waste of man power, time, and resources.

As far as those ground defenses taking you out faster than vehicles, well sure. That's because those rail-guns were built with the idea of close range armor vaporizing goodness in mind.

AA missile launchers with more than two missiles: balance issue. The game is already built like an intricate match of rock-paper-scissors. But, a certain level of skill (and luck) should still give you the edge you need to prevail even in the face of superior weaponry. If missile launchers had the capability to rapidly launch 10 uber heat seeking missiles of total asskickery +5, planes wouldn't even stand a chance. Likewise, if planes had some sort of TV guided missile that auto-lockified on to tanks and ground defenses and zoomed right into them without any sort of skill on the part of the gunner, it would be lame.

#6 – Vehicles

I'll agree with you on this one. That was a major problem in BF2 as well. I guess it could also be attributed to balance in the sense that they don't want someone rolling their tank to the top of a mountain and just blasting away at units 5 miles away with impunity.

#7 - The Server Browser

I've never had a problem with the server browser for BF2, or the 2142 demo. I use the 'Advanced' tab in 2142, and I’ve been able to look up the server IP by hitting the info button. Don't know what to tell you on this one, but I suppose it's just personal preference. I don't mind it one bit.

#8 – The Loading Menu

*ponder* I'm assuming that you're talking about the fact that when you hit the escape button while in game, it takes three or four seconds to get to the menu. It's the equivalent to alt-tabbing. You're changing everything that is on the damn screen. But in all seriousness, it's a few seconds. Get over it.

#9 – The HUD of the 22nd century

Well, some of this is already in 2142, so I really don't understand where you're coming from. It has nothing to do with a squad leader, although you only get the information if you're in a squad. It works like this: if a member of your squad can see an enemy, it shows up as a red diamond on your HUD. You can see this diamond through walls, barriers, and whatever else you can imagine. Doesn't take any special helmets or the like. The unlockable helmets only serve to provide more detailed information with those little red diamonds.

As far as aiming reticules that tell you exactly where to shoot, when to shoot, and whether to be lying prone, hopping, or doing the Macarena while you shoot, that's just lame. And again, it comes down to balance. It could be argued that the First Person Shooter genre requires the most hand-eye coordination, as well as snap spatial recognition of its gamers. More than any other type of game. There is a certain amount of skill (and luck, as I’ve said before) that goes into taking down an enemy in a first person shooter. You don't just select your character and tell him to attack the enemy and expect it to do everything for you. You do it yourself, and you take factors such as enemy movement, terrain, and the like into account when you start letting of controlled bursts.

#10 – Friendly Fire?

This is easily the lamest point that you made. Do you seriously want to be smack ass in the middle of a firefight defending a hallway to a control console in a titan, screaming away with your LMG, and have some jackass from your team sprint across your field of view and have your gun go "Ah ah ah, that's a no no. Please don't shoot friendly players. It's not nice, and it could get you in trouble. Do you understand what I have just said? Press 1 for yes. Press 2 for no. *Press 1* Thank you for understanding. Please continue firing now." Come on...that's preposterous. You just have to have a certain amount of trust in the players from your team that are around you. Granted, there are always going to be a couple assholes that go and ruin everybody's fun by teamkilling for no reason, but it's the internet, what do you expect?

In summary, if you liked BF2, you're probably going to like BF2142. The gameplay is the same, the squad structure is the same, and the vehicular concepts are the same. The learning curve is a little rougher, but that's what happens when a game gets more intricate. Download the demo, try it out, but remember that a demo is simply a demo. The game is going to change A LOT when the full version comes out and people start making use of unlocks. Defending a titan is going to take on a whole new meaning when you can place automated defense torrents and personal shields on the ground. Storming a base is going to become much more complicated when you can see defending players' current health, kit, and what they had for breakfast that morning via the NetBat helmets. It's going to be fun.

If you have never bought into the Battlefield series this is a must have. It's a great leap from those of you who still play counter-strike 1.6 and source etc. and never really moved on. For those of you who bought BF2 and have a tight wallet, stick with that game. The rest of us however will enjoy 2142. Myself included, I played BF2 for free as my friend played the expansion. 2142 is definetly worth buying as I havn't put any money into EA's wallets for any other part of the series.

I posted this on a forum that had a disscusion which linked here. Here is my response and I go with everything I say in it.
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I got in on the beta (NOT the demo), I loved it, it had Walkers (Not in the others), rail gun (new), Titan (no way you can say its old), new weapons, new unlock system, just about everything is new.
Here is one of the complaints posted.

#3 – Those awesome high-tech weapons, or not?

Where are my plasma weapons, phasers, lasers, and energy guns? Oh right, it's only 2142, those weapons wouldn't be invented or ready yet. My ass. There's nothing better than using good old bullets. Bullets that cause massive amounts of recoil and inaccuracy and I might add, a limited supply of ammunition to boot. Also weapons that get too hot just like those World War 2 weapons, you know 50 years back, or from 2142 it would be 200 years ago. Good to see you can only fire a limited number of rounds before your weapon gets too hot and you have to let it cool down, it's an awesome feature that the soldier of the 22nd century has come to rely on to save his life. You would think the weapons of 2142 would have superior anti-recoil technology, light weight, deadly and accurate…right?...nah…

Solution: More high tech weapons with an agenda to devastate. Less recoil, less overheating, more energy weapons.

Now here is logic:

The laws of physics say that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only changed into another form. Energy is what a laser is, there are basic laser weapons that work NOW, but they cannot set metals on fire or go through them or melt them, only fiber glass, and not to mention, it takes a nuclear plant just to power it for one shot. I don’t want to see my soldier attached to a line attached to a nuclear plant that could easily be destroyed and blow everything to hell, it just isn't logical.
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#4 – The Mighty Titans

Yeah the new titan game mode is cool, and the titans are ok looking, but I had hoped for more aggressive flying battleships of doom in the sky. Instead I get giant star trek medical support ships. Then again, they are just support ships. It's a good thing that the exterior of the ships look completely different or I'd get confused which one is the enemy and which one is friendly. But thank God they have the exact same interior design, because then I would get so confused, wait huh? The titans have the same exact interior layout? Wow that's convenient. Also the engineer must have been a genius, putting the main reactor on level 2 where all you have to do is destroy 4 consoles and the reactor is exposed. Funny, how there are still parts of the ship you can't go because the force fields still up. Yeah, its better we expose our reactor so the enemy can blow up our ship than to keep other random "important" areas of the ship off limits. A dead titan is better than having a titan where force fields don't protect the restrooms. Reactor of ship: Not important, Hanger Bay: Important, shield at all costs.

Solution: Don't be dumb. Reactor should be the most difficult shield to get down, and the last part of the ship that can be accessed sequentially. Besides, I want to find those a-holes that are staring at some consoles controlling the damn turrets on the titans that keep bombarding me, I want payback, nothing like sneaking behind them and filling them full of lead, or tungsten, or whatever the hell material 2142 weapons are using.
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This is just someone who has a grudge against the guy who killed him with the turrets then shot him when he went for the control panels/reactor.
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#5 – Outpost Defenses

Honestly, I already feel depressed, but I will continue to the outpost defenses. All the Battlefield games have these things. The funny part is that in 2142, both sides share them. That's right; there is some universal anti-vehicle and anti-air, which both sides just reuse when they recapture an outpost. So we have the EU and the PAC, those are the sides that are fighting each other, and they have the same outpost defense systems. My question is why the anti-aircraft, just like in battlefield 2, only have 2 missiles and there are no missiles that auto lock on. I mean, those were invented right?

How come infantry can kill me quicker in the stationary defenses than any of the vehicles?

Solution: each side has its own defense systems, and the anti-aircraft have more than 2 missiles. In fact, add an infantry anti-aircraft weapon for added complexity.
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Each team copied each other when the war started, when one side got new equipment, the other team matched them. Also, the guy who typed that, must have played the spec ops class, all the time, there is a rocket launcher that works fine and assault get a miniature rocket launcher also.
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#6 – Vehicles

The only problem I have with the vehicles is they are slow and have no horse power. If I take an apc or tank and try to go up a slight incline the fucking thing struggles like I'm trying to go up a 60 degree slope; trying to reverse is even worse. These vehicles are worse than the vehicles and tanks of 2006! I shouldn't have any problems going up hills and such as long as it's within reason. Come on, it's the 22nd century.

Solution: put better engines in the vehicles, like some new high tech powerful engines (Scuderi design anyone?).
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These things are carry masses of armor and powering multiple weapons, and also the assault pods are powered by the apcs engine, meaning it has to go to multiple sections, be fuckin glad it moves at all.
Tanks also have a hover engine, which means that it takes a WHOLE HELL OF A LOT of power to run those things.
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#7 - The Server Browser

Dude, I hate ALL of the Battlefield games' in-game browsers. Of course I could use the All Seeing Eye or Game spy or whatever, but Battlefield just came out and none of those support it yet. Why do I hate the battlefield 2142 server browser? It now has 2 tabs, quick and advanced. Quick is a piece of shit, advanced is what you want. Who the fuck thought it would be nice to group all 0-100 ping servers as GREEN. 100 pings is BAD, IT'S NOT GOOD. 25 ping! = 80 ping. It's far worse. The whole concept of design is flawed and totally uninformative. Nothing like joining a 100 ping server when the other one below it is 15 pings, but we wouldn't know that would we. Thanks green yellow red, give my numerics back.

Secondly, why are my favorites listed IN THE MAIN SERVER LISTING? So if I just wanted to refresh my 5 favorite servers I have to refresh all 500 of them. That's just fucking AWESOME! And why can't I just have a favorite tab? I have to go BACK to the overview to just see my favorites, and then again, it's the damn green yellow red crap!

So I try joining a server and it says server full. No big deal, just join another server... BAM

SERVER LIST GONE, it’s refreshing, please wait 10 seconds. WHAT THE FUCK!

I had a perfectly good server list, so why the fuck is it being refreshed? DID I WANT IT REFRESHED, NO!

Is there any way I can refresh just 1 server or a few servers so I can see what the pings are?

No!

I can only refresh all of them at the same time, which gives me inaccurate latency timings because of the packet throttling, but oh well at least they're up-to-date.

Oh look, server information! What does that have?

Server ip?

Nope

Ping?

Guess again

Solution: remove the entire thing. Recode. Use brain.
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Now this is stupid, He apparently has the shit computer from hell, I run fine on 200 ping servers and above that is still playable. I also saw the servers Ip when I clicked a server; I also saw the ping and the number of players and all that. It auto refreshes to give you a list of what server are available/full/high ping, and which are not.
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#8 – The Loading Menu

I've always wanted a menu that has to load itself. Not only does this game load the game, it has to load the menu. All of the battlefield series games have this retarded menu system that actually has to load. Um what? A nice delayed time consuming slow interacting menu, how lovely.

Solution: USE BRAIN. Nobody likes a menu that loads a menu. That sir is dumb. Fix. Now. Trust me, it can be done. I've seen it happen! I've coded my own menu in my OWN GAME and it DOESN'T NEED TO LOAD.
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That doesn't even make since, the menu doesn’t load itself, BECAUSE IT CAN'T! What did he code that even gave him the right to say he knows shit about how to do any of this, A full 3d rendered game with high def graphics and full menu sequences and great systems? FUCK NO! He probably coded a crappy game that didn't even stand up to NADC V 0.1.
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#9 – The HUD of the 22nd century

Where is my HUD that auto identifies friends and foes before I am even looking at them? Where is my HUD that will show overlays from other friends and sat scan that shows enemies through walls and such (yes, I know about the squad leader device that does the same thing, but it should be built into all the soldiers HUDs). It should also show aiming reticules and trajectories for aiming assistance that takes in gravity, air, your movement, and the enemy’s movements.

Solution: More high tech HUD, which brings me to my next point.
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He enjoys stating the impossible. The HUD would have to be attached to the gun in some way for it to detect the angles of firing. Any way, the player sees the HUD, not the soldier, the HUD is there to help YOU, the soldier is still out there running around, because having something do this would require it had its own power, and was connected to the person with a multitude of wires, and that it was attached to the guns ammo clip and barrel, and knew what type the gun was.
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#10 – Friendly Fire?

Yes, there is still friendly fire. Apparently 130 years of technological advancement hasn't figured out how to prevent army personal from shooting their people.

Solution: a better HUD would help, but weapons shouldn't allow firing on friendly targets. At least give a sound warning first, then if they try and fire again it fires.

So that ends my rant on how to improve upon the game making it more successful and popular. If you have read this far I'm impressed. Most people probably didn't, but fuck them. Will I buy battlefield 2142? Probably not. Will I keep playing the demo? Probably yes, at least for a few more days until it's over, I hate it, or I get bored of it. Whichever comes first.
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A bullet can't go "Ohh, this guy is on my team I will stop here and drop to the ground." a gun can't say "Hmm, well he looks to be on my team, I am going to go into safety mode." It is utterly impossible.
I am glad he probably won't be buying the game; it means I won't have to listen to him bitch after it comes out.

#1 – Your soldier looks like he's been spending time with Barry Bonds and the Balco boys, but he performs like your stoner uncle Jeff recovering from a Grateful Dead concert.

There are several unlocks that give your solider better run speed and more stamina.

#3 – Those awesome high-tech weapons, or not?

The unlock weapons are much "cooler" and have less recoil.

#4 – The Mighty Titans

By orginal design you had to bypass 4 forcefields to get to the core, while theres only 1 protecting the hanger. However this was changed in order to promote a more friendly defensive posistion around the consoles.

#5 – Outpost Defenses

The Eng. line unlocks a infantry anti-aircraft weapon by one line...

#9 – The Hud of the 22nd century

Do you want the game to do everything for you?

#10 – Friendly Fire?

It takes very little skill to avoid friendly fire. If you cant play with friendly fire then you do not belong in the battlefield series at all... Having friendly fire on adds alot to the game and the skill needed to work in a good squad.

I can agree with most of these statements here. I have played the demo for about 4 hours now.
At first i just thought it looked like BF2, and that was a bit of a shit cop out by Dice. Then after playing I realised a number of things, that as yet have not been raised here.

1 The Music is completley different! 1942 had the "classic" music, BF2 had the classic music modified into chinese or middle eastern music. Same tune, but jazzed up a bit. Same with AF, same tune but changed a bit to more americanised tune. obviously BFV had its own unique soundtrack as provided by the Hippies and various vietnam films:) What is it im listening to in 2142?? Its depressing, demotivating and very predictable!

2 The level design omg!! who designed this level for the demo? it looks like a bad mod made by a spotty teenager. It has no strategic importance in the terrain, no dam, no main roads, no buildings worth taking up a sniping position inside. It looks as if everything has just been thrown onto the map in a random order. "Yes we'll put one here, here and ermm oh here, just plonk them down anywhere its up to the players to find a use for them." Vast areas of open space with no cover at all, no rocks, trees, mud, anything to enhance the game or the Battlefield experience.

3 The titans do not deserve the name "Titan". They are not in the least Titanic. Excluding the fact that they are easy to sink via the afforementioned "back door to the main reactor". the guns are weak and inefective at range, they spread all over the place and with a moving target is almost impossible to kill a target. Again the interior design is completly flawed, where are the security checkpoints with defensive areas? Where are the 2142 eqivalents of the mounted MGs? Why is'nt there a door/force field that can be locked at back of titan, to slow down the enemy?

4 The attack chopper thing. Why can it not fly upside down? what happened to the barrel roll maneauver? Barrel roll in 2142 = fall out of sky and die! Has powered flight changed so much in the last 150 years that we can no longer move through the sky like a plane/chopper should? Can i request a Sopwith Camel please? It will be deadly in the air versus these flying garbage cans.

I am almost lost for words as to the dreadfull nature of this game. After the bf2 1.3 debacle I had vowed never to go near EA again. However I have still given the demo a good try and i can now say with some conviction and I pledge to you all with god as my witness: I will never buy BF2142 or any other EA/Dice game ever again. Im also considering putting a clause in my will forbidding my descendants from going near EA/Dice too.

2142 is so bad it now goes on the list above; the decision by star trek producers to use that awfull cheesy music at the beginning of Enterprise, instead of the usuall clasical uplifting music from previous series. Its a travesty at best, and EA/dice should be sterilised in the intrests of Evolution.

First of all, I must admit that some things u said are indeed correct and those will be things that the entire gaming audience will notice..

BUT, a lot of your comments are just .. uhm .. retarded?
I mean, you bitch and moan about lasers and auto-lock on and all that other sh*t that you can find in UT2004 and Quake and all of those games, but this isn't 'one of those games'. And don't get me wrong, I also play UT2004 AND Quake. But Battlefield is known for being somewhat of a tactical Shooter. You can't just run/drive/fly throughout the entire freakin' map blasting/shooting everything that is clearly enemy and expect to survive all and not running out of ammo while doing it.
Now THAT's not realistic. Maybe you want stuff like a Redeemer rocket in your games that even the biggist idiot in the world could use to blast 10 people in one second, or an auto-aiming-enemy-recognizing-utility, but a lot of BF gamers will be pissed off about it because they want to rely on skill, and not just on some Hi-Tech weaponary..
And I really do think that you can't just judge the game by just playing the demo.
This due to the lack of unlocks in it. A lot will probably change when everybody starts unlocking new weapons/items..

My conclusion would be: BF is and always will be somewhat of a 'tactical' shooter and not some brainless 'start-shooting-everybody' game where you don't even have to think about how or who to shoot..
So IMO: Accept it or go play Quake or Unreal Tournament..

Greetingz from Shir-é-Panjshir

/start sarcasm
so you want a lot of weapons that are auto targeting, no recoil, auto-fire, no FF, no reload, no bullet drop, that can kill everything, tell you where to shoot a mocing target, and that require no skill to use? Why not make them auto firing too?

Actually while we are about it, why not just make people obsolete from war and use automated machines, then we just log into the server, release our bots and sit and watch the whole thing unfold. That would be fun...
/end sarcasm

But why oh why can't they learn their lessons about the bloody server browser!

I couldn't agree more, i agree with pretty much all of what you said. and could even add a few things

I have been playing the demo for a few days before reading your review. I had a lot of the same beefs with the game. I mean it's exactly like BF2 (which IMHO was mediocre at best). Exactly, to a fault. The vehicles are just re-skins. This is either A. Laziness on DICE's part or B. EA Corporate Greed. Churn out another expansion pack with a new name and new vehicles. Charge full retail. Keep the coffers full. I was very disappointed in the "new" weapons. Why are we using bullets in 2142? Why are we firing missiles to bring down the Titan shields? Why are the Titans identical? Why don't they fall to the ground when their reactors fail? Lazy. Uninspired. Blah Blah Blah.

Sadly, the game will probably be wildly successful which will only encourage the development of this same type of drivel in the future.

Played the demo, didn't like it overall. Usual EA crap.
I'm waiting for UT2007 (Y) !

This game is less than useless...I uninstalled it after 20 mins of play.

EA games (as it cant be said too many times) just SUCKS, everything negative ive heard so far is true, i just hate the fact that dice suffers from the moneylovin´ ways of EA games.
They did after all bring us BF 1942 which despite its flaws, whas a very fun game (but after that everything went down the toilet) not to mention Codename eagle, which many probably dont even know, but whas to the best of my knowledge the very first game where you could choose from motorcycle, anti air vehicle, tank, several airplanes, & even a blimp. extreme fun game :D

in short, someone should stop the evil empire of EA GAMES.

There is an unlock for the engenier kit, the portable anti air rocket system... Read up on this shit before you start bitching about it

Sorry in advance if someone already pointed this out, but if you look at the upgrades (hover your mouse over the icon either in the "HQ" or when choosing a weapon during the game) theres a stamina boost injection and a..kind of like a steroid injection that makes you run faster. The great thing about these two is as long as you are equiped with them you automaticaly use it throught each round.

Was really, really hoping EA would do its coustomers right this time. BF2 was a big ball of frustration. Why do companies take a good thing like the Battlefield series and crap on it? Reminds me of GM. Not going to buy due to your review.

A side note, I am a developer. Not in video games, but just wanted to share that developers *DO* share blame. They have just as much responsability to speak out on the impact of quality, if not the MOST. If the company you work for for puts out crap, you say so. If they continue, you find a new job. They made a poor choices, twice. Don't let them off the hook so easily.

NO CAPTURE THE FLAG!!

One of the most requested features since good ole Desert Combat. BF2 never got it, and now BF2142 doesnt have it.

NO Capture The Flag = NO $$ BF2142

Anxiously awaiting ET: Quake Wars

You couldn't be more right. Totally uninspired. I don't know if it's DICE or EA, but I'll wait for Quake Wars thank you. Or someone to fix 2142 as a mod.

Desert COmbat ftw
battlefield vietnam ftw

BF2 and 2142 - no thanks

I have read it, and i have laugh and i have cry. To start i must say i never play the demo. why? because i cant install it, my 1 reason why i dont like the game, i donwload it for 3 houres, i install it and there comes an "error=562" whatever "i cant find all component" message. But i know the screenshots and videos, and its damn right. I have bullets in the IIWW i have Bullets in Battlefield 2, i have bullets in the 22nd century? Ok its a thing of balance, but why are there no plasma rifles? why are they no nanobots (like some one says) there are so many good ideas and intelligent stuff, Deus Ex is there a good example. Ok Bullets like elevated, and the "ratatam peng* sounds better and looks in some situations better, but the crackling of a ready laser gun or something like that, and *ZWOSCH* (ok ok a laser dont make *zwosch* but i need a sound ^^) its also cool. Many gonna say now: "YOU CAN UNLOCK THIS", ya, but to unlock this i must BUY THE GAME and PLAY AND KILL SOME OTHERS, how can i kill some others when some retards and idiots kill my at the spawn, because they want fly in the jet and crash befor they launch. Battlefield 2 and Battlefield 2142 is realy corrupt. I think back to Battlefield 1942, yes that was good teamplay, ok ok battlefield 1942 had some problems, but it had a good new idea, it was new. Now they make only a big high priced mod (and now 2) i rest in Battlefield 1942, yes the good old Battlefield 1942, with his fault and bugs, but with his good ideas. If i want better classes and more weapons then i play the good old Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory, if i want frag others, then i play counterstrike, not only the newest is the best. The only think i can say about Battlefield 2142: "Battlefield 2142 - what is that?"

After looking at your top 10 list, i can agree on several things but it is just strange that after reading everything as well as playing the demo, i must agree on almost all terms.

What is really annoying is that instead of innovation, EA DICE just sets up repetition. This is why for everyone who has played BF2 on a regular basis, BF 2142 looks like a knock-off mod. Yes mechs are cool, yes hover tanks are cool - but look at Battlezone2 f.e - there they were really implemented niceley.

In comparison to Tribes, BF2142 is a really bad example of a massive multiplayer Sci-Fi Shooter.

Only cool thing was shooting myself from the APC to the Titan, but getting to the reactor core was like a walk in the parc. Funny how the lower areas are well protected ;)